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		<title>Comment on Beware. This may not build your self esteem. by TrishaDM</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post! I love how you approached the subject and the message that it is what we contain, the message, that is important.  God can use anyone, no matter how well-versed or not we are!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I love how you approached the subject and the message that it is what we contain, the message, that is important.  God can use anyone, no matter how well-versed or not we are!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Carl Beech: Iron Sharpens Iron by fisherpeter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for adding your notes.  Seems to me like a good record of the talk and helped me to recall a few things from the day]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for adding your notes.  Seems to me like a good record of the talk and helped me to recall a few things from the day</p>
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		<title>Comment on LOVE ONE ANOTHER. That&#8217;s about it. by Scott Sholar</title>
		<link>http://anthonydelaney.com/2011/12/01/love-one-another-thats-about-it/#comment-1742</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 19:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Carl Beech: Iron Sharpens Iron by disciplegideon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Incredible post!  Full of Truth and wisdom.  Thank you for a powerful message and awesome blessing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incredible post!  Full of Truth and wisdom.  Thank you for a powerful message and awesome blessing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on APPRENTICE. Andy Stanley &#8211; Catalyst. #cat11 by Driscoll: Fear Not! &#124; ToddRhoades.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Mark Driscoll: FEAR NOT! (Catalyst 2011) #cat11 by Driscoll: Fear Not! &#124; OpenArms.tv</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Mark Driscoll:  Fear Not [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Mark Driscoll: FEAR NOT! (Catalyst 2011) #cat11 by Driscoll: Fear Not! &#124; ToddRhoades.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Mark Driscoll:  Fear Not [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Jesus&#8217; Job Interview by Uncle Tree</title>
		<link>http://anthonydelaney.com/2011/09/23/jesus-job-interview/#comment-1731</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, me, too.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, me, too.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Lynn Swart: True or False? Sermon at Ivy MCR today on Nehemiah 6:9-14 by Gary</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 15:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What hope do we have of discerning which messages are from God if, as you have said, the receivers of messages from God (aka people) are all &quot;messed up&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What hope do we have of discerning which messages are from God if, as you have said, the receivers of messages from God (aka people) are all &#8220;messed up&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I believe &#8211; Part 3: The Crux of the matter by Gary</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand that the theology says that Jesus had to be &#039;fully human&#039; and hence have human needs, desires etc.

I&#039;m not sure why he had to be human for this though. If your omniscient, you know it all anyway. And if you believe God is omniscient, you know he knows it all. As ever with things where God &#039;had&#039; to do something (die, be human etc.) I&#039;m just not clear on why he &quot;had&#039; to do it. Who tells God what he &#039;has&#039; to do?  I thought he made the rules?

This takes me back to my questions 1 &amp; 2. My question isn&#039;t about the mechanics of atonement  though  - I can imagine how the case is made in terms of one person substituting for someone else. I just don&#039;t understand who it was that judged that the death of Jesus was required at all, or why they would make that decision. If you claim that God is omnipotent, then Jesus didn&#039;t have to die. If Jesus did have to die, God is either not omnipotent, or God decided Jesus had to die. They are the only options, surely?

I don&#039;t have time to read books on subjects I am not convinced by, in the same way that I&#039;ve never yet managed to persuade a religious person to read the God Delusion, I&#039;m going to use the reasoning that I doubt there is much of interest to me there - but I&#039;m more than happy for you to explain the key points that you think would help solve this paradox I&#039;m struggling with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that the theology says that Jesus had to be &#8216;fully human&#8217; and hence have human needs, desires etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why he had to be human for this though. If your omniscient, you know it all anyway. And if you believe God is omniscient, you know he knows it all. As ever with things where God &#8216;had&#8217; to do something (die, be human etc.) I&#8217;m just not clear on why he &#8220;had&#8217; to do it. Who tells God what he &#8216;has&#8217; to do?  I thought he made the rules?</p>
<p>This takes me back to my questions 1 &amp; 2. My question isn&#8217;t about the mechanics of atonement  though  &#8211; I can imagine how the case is made in terms of one person substituting for someone else. I just don&#8217;t understand who it was that judged that the death of Jesus was required at all, or why they would make that decision. If you claim that God is omnipotent, then Jesus didn&#8217;t have to die. If Jesus did have to die, God is either not omnipotent, or God decided Jesus had to die. They are the only options, surely?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have time to read books on subjects I am not convinced by, in the same way that I&#8217;ve never yet managed to persuade a religious person to read the God Delusion, I&#8217;m going to use the reasoning that I doubt there is much of interest to me there &#8211; but I&#8217;m more than happy for you to explain the key points that you think would help solve this paradox I&#8217;m struggling with.</p>
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