New Podcast episode just dropped on ‘Future Church’ where I interview my friend one over 15 years the inimitable Pastor Paul Lloyd of Victory Outreach Church, Manchester.

Paul and Vicky lead the most broken people into becoming some of the most beautiful you could ever meet and I always love connecting with them. Some years ago we toyed with the idea of co-writing a book, ‘Cop And Robber’ because although our life experiences took us to different sides of the law, the grace of God brought us to him in ways that have multiple and miraculous similarities.

I really encourage you to listen to this one and share it with others, there are lots of laughs and hope for everyone right here.